Although I am not rajabadi, but I think we need to have some kind of ceremonial KING, just to continue our culture.

Now our NEPAL is secular state, so it can't endorse any religion, so how it can support our long cultural history.
I afraid that now we will lose the privilege for knowing as country of living goddess 'KUMARI'


source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7440410.stm
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Nepal's 'living goddess' in limbo
By Charles Haviland
BBC News, Kathmandu

The previous goddess, Sajani Shakya, retired in March. The appointment of a new "living goddess" in Nepal is being held up by the recent abolition of the monarchy, a Nepalese official says. According to tradition, the king's priest appoints the girl, who is chosen in her infancy and is treated as a goddess, or Kumari, until puberty.


But the priest no longer has any say in the republic, the head of the trust overseeing the tradition says. Hindus and Buddhists regard the Kumaris as incarnations of a deity.

Shria Badrucharia, 6, has been selected by a religious panel as the "living goddess" in the town of Bhaktapur, near the capital Kathmandu. She was chosen to replace the previous goddess who retired early in March. Under the ancient tradition, she has to have certain physical attributes and undergo special tests to be selected. But the head of the trust overseeing the Kumari tradition told the BBC that because Nepal is now a republic that priest no longer has any role in the matter.He said the chairman of the trust's board would have to decide soon who would approve the new living goddess.

This quandary is just one of many set to arise now that the politicians have abolished the monarchy without thinking though the religious or political implications.

It is unthinkable that this deeply religious country would scrap the rich series of traditions and festivals which pepper the people's lives and are also a magnet for tourists.

Yet many traditions are associated with the king and may face adjustments in future.

Nepal is now supposed to be a secular state but for the past two years the elderly Prime Minister, Girija Prasad Koirala, has been trying to take on the king's religious roles with a stream of temple visits.

A few months ago the prime minister was said to be angered when the royal priest refused to give a blessing.

The biggest elected party, the Maoists, are fiercely non-religious.

However, the party's deputy leader was blessed by a priest at the start of his election campaign.

First curb religion, then social structure and basic human rights!  As per Chairman Mao, "Religion is Poison" and thats exactly how the Maobadi Commies in Nepal are looking to enforce their doctrine...Slowly and totally undetected based on the facade of throwing out the monarchy!  Welcome to a Communist Republic!!

Though nepal was a hindukingdom, but was equally buddhist too. I just wonder what will happen to "samyakpuja". The death of culture will eventually going to take us to the death of out nepalese identity. King, though being hindu, was actively participated in different religious/cultural activities.Those moron who thinks "Kumari" or " Indra Jatra" as only hindu buddshist culture or culture of Valley, just deserve to die!

You are loosing your identity and culutre too..! our son and grand son will be laughing at us for being  stupid and following commie whim!

Well Cometo " new nepal" rathar " NOR NEPAL"

NO we don't need a king in any form.

Culture evolves over time. If you are so passionate about preserving your culture, why don't you go back to Nepal, live the life from 2000 years ago and then share your opinions. It is very convenient to enjoy western comforts, dream of making big in the west, and shout about preserving culture.

If you want to preserve culture, why not go all the way back and re-instate Sati pratha. You can't pick and choose which cultures you want to reclaim. You can only live the ones that you identify with, and the rest will die in due course.

So, what exactly do we need a king for? If Kumari guthi needs king's participation in selection of new Kumari, then why not go back to the roots of Kumari, get a Malla or Licchhavi blood to do the role?

If you have it in your heart, the culture will survive all odds. Unfortunately all cultures die with each dying person.

Any rebuttals?

 

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Religion is just another form of politics. Those people who are acting for reinstallment of hindu country are not working solely because of religion. We don't need peopel like Bharat kesari in any form. A country can not and should not be designated as hindu or muslim or any other religion.
Well, regarding the "living goddess" people who have belief on these things are solely responsible to preserve it. A government should not be responsible for preserving or biasing any religion.

It was Chetris who decided for jyapus for 200+ years and now it's Bahuns turn. Let Bahuns decide if we need Kumari, Indra Jatra, Bisket Jatra and many more other jatras.

Jyapu haru lai Aaila khwayo ani j garey ni bhai halcha ni

And what benefits does appointing a 'KUMARI' has been doing in our society or in that matter any other jatra has done? besides blocking the traffic and a public holiday to waste our time.

I feel the importance of religion but many of our tradition will eventually change and we should embrace the change and adopt to it.

If people are keen on preserving their culture, then there is i think 'Guthis' and local organization to plan the same. Maybe this is the time to be united in the local community and work together during the jatras.

In my opinion we should cut down all holidays given in the name of jatras and let government people do job for now.

No, we don't need more d.i.kheads in Nepal. We have enough of them already... I think the poster of this thread needs to move on just like his boss is going to.

kya_naam......................mmm........whatever your name is!
It's kind of late. Don't you think?

 morons like axara and shetalab tries to bark here just to show that they are educated and progressive infact they're the a**hole of anything goodness uniqueness that exist. So Mao's cultural revolution did good for modern china? is that your argument? oh by the way satipratha do not exist just because whores outnumbered the population. satisfied?

forget about jyapu's jatras let's only celebrate dashain and tihar. Dashain bida should be extended to 2 weeks and tihar for a week. 

I am really suprised to see some comments, I am saying you guys I am not royalist, but I am always proud to call myself as NEPALI. I dont give damn who who was the king or who were the supporters. Yeah there were times when you call yourself as true Nepali, then you were branded as Royalist.

Hey guys, just be proud what you have, I think u guys are MORON who are saying what jataras and our culture has given to us??

if you dont have respect your culture and tradition ?? Then what if one day one indian come to you and ask okay guys u are following our movies, our serials, share simillar taste for foods and blindly celebrate all western festival as we do, then what is the benifit of calling as your country as seprate country, why you be part of india. That day you may realize your what is your TRADITION, CULTURE AND IDENTITY. these things makes what you are called as NEPALI.


HERE other guys like AX are fighting by calling as this is jyapu's jatra. dude I am not newar, I am bramin and born and raise in ktm  (good to say inner ktm ) and always have respect for all their festival either its KUMARI or jatras or Yomari prune or shiti nakha.

And I am telling specially you that the purohit of all bigest temple of devi worshiped during a DASHAIN in KTM PATAN or DAKHIN KALI or MANAKAMANA are either NEWARS or MAGARS. Dude try to repsect other religons too

We do not need Shah kings to continue our culture.

Our Culture was there long time before Shah came to Kathmandu

and attacked innocent people in Kumari Festival with seven Bharuwa Baduks.

We do not need Ceromonial Shah kings.

We do not have to stop Kumari just beacause Gyanendra is kicked from his GADDI.

We have many ceromonial kings from Mallas Dynasty in Kathmandu, Bhaktapur and Patan.

We can find them very easily..

We do not need any Bhandar-Khaal Parba, Kot-Parba, Narayanhity-Parba again.

Kumari was there before 240 years, before shahs knew there was something outside gorkha. Kumari was there in malla dynasty but they were not selected by king but has to follow certain process. But Shah's came to kathmandu and started selecting kumari's. But Kumari was there before their existance and will be there after their existance. Kumari has nothing to do with shah's.

Kumari was there before 240 years, before shahs knew there was something outside gorkha. Kumari was there in malla dynasty but they were not selected by king but has to follow certain process. But Shah's came to kathmandu and started selecting kumari's. But Kumari was there before their existance and will be there after their existance. Kumari has nothing to do with shah's.

Gyanendra has every right to go participate in selecting a new Kumari, regardless of abolition of monarchy in Nepal.  He's a private citizen of the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, as are the Kumari guthi members.

If Pushpey and his stooges don't like it, tough.

If the guthi chooses to invite a private citizen to their private event, that's their private business and nobody else's.

शाह बंशमा
हत्या,शिकारी, शडयन्त्र, चोरी, कालो बजारी, कमिसनतन्त्र,
ब्याइते, ल्याइते, बहिरिनी, भित्रिनी,धाइ, नमिता, सुमिता,
कालो चरेस, हिरोइन नशा पदार्थ,  राष्ट्र बैंक लुट,
रेडक्रस चन्दा पैसा स्वाहा, जनताको पैसाले दरबार बनाउने
त्यही दरबारफेरी सरकारलाई बेच्ने, पैसा जम्मै स्विस बैन्क लैजाने,
कोटपर्ब, भन्डारखाल, नारायणहिटी पर्ब, पञ्च बली, एघार बली, जनबली,
मोज मजा, बन्दुक, ज्यानमारा पारसे, नेपाल एर्लाइन्स ट्याक्सी, कार्पेट काण्ड,
सिंहदर्बार काण्ड, रक्त कुण्ड, भैरब गण कुण्ड, श्रीमान गम्भिर जबर्सती गाउनु पर्ने,
आदी आदी ।। २४० बर्ष सम्म लादिएको कुप्रणालीलाई कहिल्यै स्थान दिने छैन

religion, culture, and traditions are the things that sets Nepal apart from rest of the world and creates our unique identify. They are not related or affiliated or entitled to a certain group and certainly not to any political establishment. They belong to all the Nepalese people who observe them and practice them. We know that in many of our Nepalese traditions and rituals, Monarchs--being Hindu Kings--have played vital roles. Now, even with the Monarchy gone, all the culture and traditions should continue to be followed. They set our identities; if we are so keen on forgetting them, might as well one day forget ourselves.

No matter where we live and how successful we become, we should not ever forget our identity. If we do that, we will forget ourselves!

sayami bro,

why are you sooooooooo against the Shah Kings????? Chill out--they are gone now. i have not seen you write against the Maoists who are responsible for the kilings of more than 15,000 Nepalese people. The Shah Kings were saints as compared to the blood loving Maoists.

whether or not removing the Monarchy from Nepal was a good decision, history will be the best judge to that..for now, only hope that the Maoists will not turn Nepal into a communist republic.

do yourself a favor--don't get stressed out so much and think abt something other than the former Kings of Nepal.