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Posted on 04-06-08 11:55
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Guys,lets request ur family members to vote to those candidates and parties who are determined to uproot monarch and establish Republic.No matter which parties they are frm, request ur relatives and frens to votes in favour of Pro-Republic candidates.We don't any leaders who still shakes his/her leg when it comes to decides the fortune of Monarch.........
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Posted on 04-08-08 3:29
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So nepe any technical janakaris or facts and figures to above posts (try google it may have some janakari on maoists)
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Posted on 04-08-08 4:05
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स्याकुसर,
के जानकारी चाहनुहुन्छ, मर्जी होस् । मैले भेटेसम्म टक्र्याउने छु । Google को जन्म हुनु भन्दा अघि देखि नै नेपालको घटनाहरुलाई हेरिबसेको हुनाले Google मा नभेटिने कुरा पनि अलि अलि बताउन सक्छु, त्यसो त ।
अब एउटा Google मै भेटिने तथ्यांक । माथि ROYALIST Maddogg सरले “mass grave” को बारेमा जिज्ञासा राख्नुभएको रहेछ ।
ROYAL ARMY ले लुकाएको शिवपुरीको सम्भावित ‘mass grave” को खबर धेरै पुरानो पनि होईन । तर अन्य अज्ञात “mass graves” को बारे के अनुमान लगाउन सकिन्छ भने माओवादीले लुकाएको हरेक 1 “mass grave” को हाराहारी श्री ५ को सरकारको (देउबा, कोईराला र ज्ञानेन्द्र सरकार प्रमुख हुँदा) सुरक्षा फौज ले लुकाएको 8 “mass graves” हुनुपर्छ । “गायब पारिएका मानिसहरु” को तथ्यांकले यस्तै देखाउँछ ।
No. of victim disappeared by State and Maoist
(13 Feb 1996 - 31 Dec 2006)
Source: INSEC
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Posted on 04-08-08 4:10
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So sad
everybody doing politics over these dead bodies, and still people are proudly presenting datas about which group killed the most
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Posted on 04-08-08 7:18
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Chyame_Kancha,
I salute your sensitivity and your respect to the victims of a black history of our country.
This in a form of some cold data probably should not be here. But it is also possible that you bumped into a wrong place.
That said, your remarks took me to what a guest blogger in mysansar dot com is fearing about our future.
विगत बिर्सिने सम्भावना
चुनाव पश्चात खडा हुने नयाँ वातावरणमा पुरानो नेपालका कुराहरु असान्दर्भिक हुने सम्भावना छ । विगतका विकृति, अन्याय, अत्याचार, भ्रष्टाचार र अनैतिक कृयाकलापहरुमा आधारित रहेर कुराकानी, समिक्षा वा विश्लेषण गर्ने प्रयत्न सकेसम्म निरुत्साहित हुनेछ । काँग्रेसको अगुवाइमा भएगरेका भ्रष्टाचार, एमालेका अकर्मण्यता तथा दिशाहीनताका कारण गुमाएका अवसरहरु, तथा माओबादिका हत्याहिंसा र अत्याचारका कथाब्यथाहरु सकेसम्म विर्सने प्रयास गरीने छ । कसैले कुरो कोट्याउनै खोजेपनि, - पुरानो नेपालको कुरा गरी के साध्य ? - भन्ने स्तरको टिकाटिप्पणी गरेर त्यसको बिषयवस्तुलाइ हल्का देखाउने र त्यस्ता छलफल तथा विवादहरुबाट पन्छिने प्रयास हुने छ । छिटपुट पत्रकार तथा अनुसन्धाताले बिगतलाइ केलाएर गूणदोष खुट्याउने प्रयास गरेता पनि त्यसले जनचासो आकर्षित गर्न नसक्ने सम्भावना धेरै छ । अप्ठ्यारै परेर जवाफदेहि बन्नु पर्ने स्थीतिमा पनि - उहिले हाम्रो त्यस्तो नीति थियो, कमजोरी थियो, गलती थियो, तर नयाँ नेपालमा हामीले हाम्रा नीति र ब्यवहारहरु परीवर्तन गरीसकेको हुनाले ती पुराना कुराहरु कोट्याउनाको अर्थ छैन, हामी नयाँ नेपाल बनाउने अभियानमा संलग्न भएको हुनाले पुराना कुराहरुमा अल्झेर समय बर्बाद गर्न हुन्न - भनी तार्किक प्रतिकार गर्ने तथा आ-आफ्नो अनुकूल ब्याख्या गर्न सबै अग्रसर हुनेछन । यस्तो प्रयासहरुले बिगतप्रतिको दृष्टीकोणलाइ असान्दर्भिक तुल्याउनुको साथसाथै पुरानो नेपालमा गरेका अपराधहरु सोलोडोलो माफ गर्ने खालका दण्डहिनतालाइ अझै संस्थागत गर्ने खतरा रहनेछ ।
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Posted on 04-08-08 7:28
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याहाँ दुबै पक्षले आ आफ्नो कुरा माथि राख्न सत्य देखी पन्छिएको देख्दा झर्को लाग्यो । माओवादीबाट रेपको घटनामा थोरै सहकार्य छ सेनाको तुलनामा तर जिरो थियो भन्नु मुर्खता मात्र हुन्छ त्यसतै धेरै थियो नाइन्साफी । अर्को,तथांकले स्टेटबाट बढी मानिस मारिएको भए पनि त्यसको जिम्मेवारी माओवादि नै हुन आउँछ, हतियारि आक्रमणको शुरुवात उनीहरुबाटै भएका हुन , बाकी जोड घटाउको कुनै अर्थ राख्दैन न त बैचारिक आरोप प्रत्यारोपले छिनोफानो लाग्छ । यसलाइ युनिभर्सल मान्यतामा मात्रै नाप्न सकिन्छ । जस्तो कि इराकि जनधनको क्षेतीको जिम्मेदार अमेरिकि मात्रै हुनआउँछ किनभने हतियार उठाउने पहिला उनि नै हुन, त्यसतै दोस्रो युध्दमा जापानिजहरु ।
Nepal's Maoists accused of rape
The authorities in southern Nepal say they are investigating reports that Maoist rebels have raped a number of women villagers.
The incident took place last week in the village of Jagatpur, in Saptar district, a local official said.
He said a group of Maoists entered the village demanding
food and then raped several women at gunpoint in the presence of family
members.
A local activist has denied the Maoists were involved.
He told the BBC the rebels had detained a "criminal" in
connection with the incident and were looking for other people
involved.
However, there has been no official reaction from the Maoist leadership.
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In the morning of 23rd August 2005, many Dalit organizations, -
activists and other human rights defenders were shocked seeing the news
"25 Women Raped" in the Kantipur Daily. The news report mentioned that
Maoists raped 25 Dalit women in Saptari district. To find out what
really happened that night in Saptari, a team of different human rights
and Dalit organizations headed towards Saptari from Kathmandu to start
a fact-finding mission. Jagaran Media Center's (JMC) district reporting
team was already present at the place of the incident.
A summary of JMC's fact finding report is published below.
Date of incident: 18 August 2005 Time of incident: Mid-night Place of incident: Saptari District, Jagatpur VDC-4, Dalit Basti
Detail of incident:
It
was the night of 18 August 2005 around 9 p.m., in the Jagatpur VDC-4 of
Saptari. Devkant Yadav, Lalit Chaudhari, Pradip Gupta and Dinesh Sardar
(calling themselves Maoist) entered the village with armed weapons. All
of them, except Dinesh Sardar, went to the house of Shambhu Chaudhari,
who is a local resident of the village.
Dinesh
Sardar, who called himself the Commander of Maoist, went in the house
of Kamala Devi Khanga (name changed) who is from Dalit community. He
asked her for food. She informed him that there was only rice to eat
and if he wishes, she could prepare union pickle. Dinesh ate the food
that was served. While eating the food, he told Kamala that a team of
approx. 20 Maoists had come to the village, so no one should come out
of their home. After finishing his meal, he left Kamala Devi Khanga's
house, went to Shambu Chaudari's house and drank alcohol. After a
couple of hours, he returned back and raped Kamala Devi Khanga, keeping
the gunpoint on her forehead.
Pradip Gupta, who
was sleeping in the house of Shambhu Chaudhari, left his two other
friends and came out. He went to Santalal Chaudhari's house and
indecently assaulted his wife, 25 years old Dahani Chaudhari. Dahani
started shouting at Pradip for coming into her house at midnight being
drunk. He ran away from there and went to Dalit Basti (area where Dalit
community lives). There he entered the house of Gopali Khanga and
indecently assaulted her daughters in law, 29 years old Aarati Devi and
32 years old Nilima Devi (name changed). Also, he took Gopali Khanga in
his capture and checked each and every room of her house. At the same
time, he smacked Ashok Gupta, the son of Jagadish Gupta for coming out
of his home during night.
Next day, the 19th of
August 2005, the news spread in the entire village and Dinesh Sardar
scampered from Kamala Devi's house early in the morning. Kamala Devi's
mother in law disclosed that Maoists raped her daughter in law the
night before.
Devkant Yadav and Lalit Chaudhari,
who were sleeping in the house of Shambhu Chaudhari came to village to
know the truth. Since all the villagers were found very aggressive,
both of them also scampered from the village.
Role of Maoists:
After
the news came to knowledge of Maoists, Maoists Leaders of the local
area, Bhola Chaudhari and Jakir Miya came to Dalit Basti. They took
Dinesh Sardar in their control. They asked Dinesh to apologize to the
victim in front of all the villagers and promised that they would take
action against the culprit. Pradip Gupta had already escaped from the
village.
District Secretary of Maoists Avash in a
Press Release mentioned that there was no involvement of Maoists in
this case and also committed for action against the culprit.
On
the 25th of August, the death body of Shambhu Chaudhari was found in
Mahuli Bazar. There was a letter attached to his body, written by the
Maoist. The letter stated that he was killed by Maoist for raping Priti
Devi (known by JMC as Kamala Devi) and for using the name of the
Maoists.
Local residents say that the direct
involvement of Shambhu Chaudhari in the rape case is not seen. Why
have the Maoists killed him? For the villagers it is a strange matter.
Dinesh Sardar, who was responsible for the rape, is in control of
Maoists and the action against him is yet not publicized.
Our conclusions:
- The group involved in the case called themselves Maoists.
- One man raped one Dalit woman.
- One
other man indecently assaulted three women (2 Dalit and one so-called
'higher caste'). The same man hit a male from the village.
- Local Maoists Leader forced the rapist to apologize to the victim, in front of the villagers.
- On
the death body of Shambhu Chaudhari, who was killed in the allegation
of rape, a letter was attached. This letter informs that he was killed
by Maoists.
- Victims say that the Maoists were involved in the incident.
- JMC therefore concludes that there was direct or indirect involvement of Maoists in this case. =========================================
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Posted on 04-08-08 8:26
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Mr. Truth-jyu,
मेरो दाबीको अक्षरहरु पढ्नुभयो भने म सत्यदेखि नपन्छेको मात्र होईन, सत्यको खोजमा भएको देख्नुहुनेछ ।
लौ हेर्नुहोस्:
"Based on my own readings (of various reports of HR organizations), sexual abuse is the least used form of abuse by the Maoist. On the other hand, security forces have deliberately used sexual abuse to women as a weapon of war. This is a very difficult topic. But I am interested to learn the facts."
मैले माओवादीको कर्तुत शुन्य (zero) भनेको छैन, न्यूनतम (least used) भनेको छु ।
के कुरा पक्का छ भने अहिलेसम्म रिपोर्टिङ नभएका केसहरु थुप्रै छन् र ती सुरक्षित दिनहरु फर्केपछि बिस्तारै बाहिर आउनेछन् ।
तर एउटा कुरा निश्चित छ । माओवादीले बलात्कारलाई सुरक्षाबलले जस्तो युद्ध-अस्त्रको रुपमा (शत्रुलाई गलाउन, तोड्न) प्रयोग गरेको नितान्त कम वा शुन्य पाईनेछ । यसको कारण स्पष्ट छ, कम्युनिष्टहरु यौनलाई taboo कै रुपमा हेर्छन् ।
सुरक्षाबलमा भने यौनको मामलामा बुर्जुवा उदारता भनेपनि अनुशासनको कमी भनेपनि भएकोले र खास गरेर कोईराला र देउबाले सैनिकलाई अनुशासनमा भन्दा पनि जुनसकै तरीकाले पनि माओवादीलाई ध्वस्त पार्न स्वतन्त्रता दिएकोले अपरेशनमा जाँदा सामुहिक बलात्कार वा कस्टडीमा समेत बलात्कारका जघन्य जघन्य अपराध घटेका हुन् ।
भैगो यो कुरा यतिमै टुङ्ग्याम । बान्ता आउने कुरा ।
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Posted on 04-08-08 8:31
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Agreed with Nepe though I have philosophical/ideological differences with Maoists.
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Posted on 04-08-08 9:34
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नेपेगुरु तपाइको लाइन नपढिएको होइन । अपराधको गहिराइमा बर्रबरताको कसी नापिन्छ तर समग्रमा १ हत्या या १० हत्या गर्नेलाइ हत्यारा नै भनिन्छ । १० को हत्यालाइ गंभिर रुपमा लिइ महा हत्यारा भनिए पनि १ को हत्यारालाइ "उदारवादि हत्यारा" त भन्न मिल्दैन कि कसो ?
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Posted on 04-08-08 11:48
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I am excited and hopeful about this election because moist and culprit leaders are not able to steal people's votes because Jimmy Carter as well as EU members are watching this election very closely. Hopeful, this election will bring good things for our country.
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Posted on 04-09-08 8:57
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Nepe's source of data and truth. My Sansaar(a Blog) and some obsecure human rights site(dunno if they are facts or ficticious tyo Amnesty International or Red Cross bhaye pani auta kura)...he he AND THIS MORON QUOTES THEM LIKE A PREACHER QUOTES THE BIBLE. HA HA HA blogged, blog·ging, blogs-->To write entries in, add material to, or maintain a weblog. NOT FACTS.Man Nepepe dun be going around talking out of your ass like we don't know what the fug is going on in Nepal. You and Your Cowardly Republic Supporters Repeatedly Undermine the Intelligence of Nepali People. JUST LIKE YOU(& yer repubnlic supporters) let maoists run rampant all over the country and brought upon nothing but misery and agony upon Nepal. 1kg of rice is 90Rs now(pet pani tero tyo sambhidhan sabha ley bharcha hola ni hoina Nepe?) TYO GADHA POLITICIAN HARU LEY JUSTO BHASAAN DINA KHOJCHA AJJHA(Oh i forgot you are one of them ha ha ha)
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lets not undermine republic
compare the municipal election two years back conducted by non republicans and present election.
even that non republicna vetran kamal thapa does believe in this election and is so competiting from two places. Its not that you know everything about nepal and all those 1.8 crores nepalese taking part in the election dont know anything. I bet more than 95% people will not vote for kamal thaps's party (the odd one out in the process, who doesnot beloieve in republican). Lets wait for results.
If you believe that people in nepal are dumb and dont understand what republican means and what nepal needs and think that few people overseas like you have the super knowledge of wwhat you talk against election, conduct a poll survey here provided that all educated people participate and again i bet more than 90% people will not vote for king.
Now its nepes job to provide some technical janakari and datas.
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Bathroom,
So “National Human Right Commission†and “INSEC†are some obscure organizations and their reports are unreliable and ...[deleted]... is a prominent person and a reliable source ?
Mr....[deleted]..., Know thyself first.
Nepe
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Posted on 04-09-08 11:14
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sYaKuuRiolAKU_nchImbyou said "lets not undermine republic compare the municipal election two years back conducted by non republicans and present election." Read below and tell me which was worse? Maoists prohibit other parties from entering poll booths
Kantipur Report
DADHELDURA,
April 8 - Cadres of the CPN-Maoist on Tuesday barred the leaders and
activists of other political parties from entering 14 poll booths in a
rural village, 100 kilometres far from the Daldheldura district
headquarters. The Maoists have declared that the Nepali Congress (NC)
leaders and activists cannot enter the area, while those of other
parties have been barred entry, National People’s Front central member
and candidate Lal Bahadur Jagiri, who returned from the area, informed.
Likewise, Dharmananda Bhatta of Congress-Dadheldura said the
Maoist cadres thrashed him and sent him back stating except them,
everybody is prohibited from entering the village. The former
rebels have not allowed even a single agent of other parties in poll
booths of different VDCs including Jogbuda, Alitaj and Tirtha. They
have warned to kill those who work as agents of other parties.
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Posted on 04-09-08 11:29
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SON OF A BITCH !! THERE YOU GO SHOWING YOUR TRUE COLORS. YOU MIGHT PORTRAY YOURSELF AS A MAN OF IDEALS WITH INTEGRITY BUT I KNOW YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE...WHICH IS NO DIFFERENT FROM THOSE OPPERTUNISTIC SONS OF BITCHES RAPING OUR MOTHERLAND NEPAL. MR DHUKUWA IS WAITING HERE IN THE COMFORTS OF PIZZA AND BURGERS FOR HIS CHANCE TO SHINE ON THE LIMELIGHT OF NEPALI POLITICS IN THE FUTURE.
WHY THE FUG ARE YOU NAMING PEOPLE HERE NEPE ? HA HA HA LISTEN TO THIS MOTHAFUGGER !AY TERO BAU BHANERA MERO NAAM LIYAA AAYYYGADHAAA!!! HA HA HA
NEXT THING YOU KNOW THIS MOTHAFUGGER IS GOING TO START POSTING RAPE VICTIMS NAMES HERE IN SAJHA IF IT IS TO HIS ADVANTAGE. THANKS YOU FOR SHOWING YOUR TRUE COLORS NEPE MAHARAJ!! DHERAI DHERAI DHANYABAAD !!
NOW WE KNOW YOU FOR YOU HE HE ..... NOT WHO YOU PROCLAIM TO BE. HA HA HA
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sYaKuuRiolAKU_nchImb
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Posted on 04-09-08 11:30
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thats why i always say maoist were terorists, are terrorists and will always remain terrorists
so if we have to sweep them through election
and now follow what your king says
King urges all Nepalese to participate in tomorrow’s CA polls
Kantipur Report
KATHMANDU, April 9 - King Gyanendra Wednesday called on all Nepalis, who are eligible to vote in the April 10 elections to participate in the the Constituent Assembly (CA).
Issuing a press statement today, the King urged the people to exercise their democratic franchise in a free and fair environment maintaining harmony and unity in the crucial polls.
King Gyanendra added that he has always wanted the country to prosper through democratic means as per the decision of the people.
“Beloved countrymen, it has been our only wish that the country progresses and prospers according to the sovereign decision of the people through the democratic process and that the nation’s existence, independence and integrity come under threat in no situation,†the king said in the statement.
“We request all Nepalese citizens who are eligible to vote to exercise their democratic right in the April 10 Constituent Assembly elections in a free, fair and fear-free environment, maintaining the mutual harmony and unity,†the statement further added.
..............................................................................................................MAILE BUJHE
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 04-09-08 11:45
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AND ALL THOSE TIMES I WAS BANNED FROM THIS SITE WAS PROBABLY BECAUSE OF YOU. YOU DON'T EVER SEE ME GOING AROUND ASKING ANYONE ONE TO BE BANNED. YOUR MENTALITY IS NO DIFFERENT FROM THOSE SONS OF BITCHES BACK HOME THAT MAKE PRESS REPORTERS THAT WRITE NEGATIVE ARTICLES ABOUT THEM DISSAPPEAR. SO YOU CAN COME DOWN FROM YOUR HIGH AND MIGHTY PEDESTAL NOW NEPE. I ALSO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BEEN INQUIRING ABOUT MY IDENTITY AMONG SAJHA MEMEBERS FOR A LONG LONG TIME. HE HE IS THIS WHY SO YOU CAN POST MY NAME IN BIG FONTS ? MAN O MON. MA TA NEPE BHANYA MANCHEY BHANTHANYA TA KUKUR PO PAREYCHA. DHATERIIIKA !!!!
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Sajha_Lawyer
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Posted on 04-09-08 12:02
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The quality of language that some of the people have used is unprecedentedly so low that it will not be worthy to make any intellectual discussion with these short sighted people. I request my dear NEPE sir not to waste your valuable time by preaching these people who can not grasp the essence of debate. The people who wants to see king as a central of unity, will find themselves broken into pieces after tomorrow's election results. And I just hope that they will not commit suicide out of frustration. Welcome to all in Republic Nepal. I wish the coming generation will sing "it was the summer of 2008" when they read the cherished history of Nepal.
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Birbhadra
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Posted on 04-09-08 12:06
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Regardless of who killed, the killed is almost always gau ko garib nepali.
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 04-09-08 12:09
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SAJHA LAWYER IF YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY TO ME ...HE HE SAY TO ME DIRECTLY.DUN BE TALKING ABOUT ME IN THIRD PERSON WHEN I AM STANDING RIGHT HERE MORON.AND YOU AIN'T GOT SHIT TO SAY TO YOUR GADHA NEPE FOR TAKING MY NAME HERE IN PUBLIC ? HUH !! SAJHA LAWYER ? AJJHA NEPE SIR REY .. SON OF A BITCH !!! TA PANI TYO GHUSHYAAA LAWYER JUSTOO CHA NI HO JUST LIKE NEPE ? SO ITS OK IF I TAKE YOUR REAL NAME HERE IN PUBLIC THEN HUH !!! MAN LISTEN TO THIS MORON.
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 04-09-08 12:17
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AND I AM NOT YOUR TYPICAL NEPALI BHEEDA WHO WILL STAND AND SIT AT YOUR COMMAND. I WILL SPEAK THE WAY I WANT TO WHEN I WANT TO. I DON'T GO AROUND ASKING YOU TO SPEAK THIS WAY OR THAT WAY. I ACCEPT PEOPLE FOR WHO THEY ARE. YOU DUN EVER SEE ME DISCRIMINATE POEPLE BECAUSE OF LOOKS,LANGUAGE, RACE OR ANYTHING. IF I DON'T AGREE I WILL ARGUE WITH YOU HEAD ON, NOT GO AROUND YOUR BACK FISHING FOR YOUR NAME IN CYBER WORLD.
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