Maoist kill minor. You both must be pretty happy with what they are doing.

Well, I don't think the America of today is the America of yesteryear. We've got just too many educated people roaming around. If you look at America's political map, what you'll see is that the urban areas tend to be more liberal than rural areas. Rural areas=hickville. Full of uneducated folks. There is more to do besides basic education, you know. People around the suburbs tend to be liberal, but of course there are exceptions everywhere. Washington, DC has the highest number of college graduates in the United States, and it is very blue and liberal. 90% voted for Kerry. Liberals are more socialists and what not.
I'm personally a libertarian, if you wanna know.

That was my last message. Got to go, sorry.

I urge you to polish your knowlege a bit on what prachanda path is about. if you have read some of their recent rhetorics, they have clearly stated that Mao Zedong's People's Republic and cooperative party theory cannot fulfill the needs of today's world. it cannot address today's political awareness appropriately. they are into what they call “competitive party theory” which can assure their success in 21st century.

at recent times, they have reiterated that they are up for multiparty democracy. coz they feel that can only assure the longevity of their existence. yes! international support is necessary. that is why they want to mutate from conventional communism. as you say china is a prime example. had they not promoted capitalism, their economic prosperity at status quo would have been only a distant dream. nepal do have resources, all they need is to materialize them and make them sellable.

don't be carried away with incidents where teachers, women and children have been killed. as much as i condemn those acts, i take them as minor discrepancies that come along the way of a revolution. it should be remembered that maoists have always remain as underdogs. everyone tend to look upon underdogs with derogatory approach. so when they do one mistake, it gets magnified like hell. do you have any idea, how many innocents have been killed by NA itself in the last 10 years? do you know how many sufferers were brutally murdered during panchayat era. i am not pointing out another wrong doing to justify a wrong but mishaps do happen during revolutions.

LooTe

I don't buy that. And "minor discrepancies" you said? Killing teachers is minor discrapancy to you? Not to me. I value all lives, and that's how it is.
Secondly, I guess using your logic, supporting Al Qaeda is also okay, since some of the things they advocate--e.g. when they point out the fact that Muslims are being oppressed by the West--do make some sense. After all, dead Americans are just collateral damage to you. Right?

Sorry, but the things Maoists have indulged in, like, oh i don't know, killing people, totally trumps whatever positive things they bring to the table. Now, don't get me wrong, I do want a truce of some form or another, but the bottomline is that they're terrorists.
Now, I have never supported the King, never will. As I said, I want a democracy. However, I do feel that the King was unpopular because of some specious rumors they spread about him. For example, the notion that Gyanendra was responsible for Birendra's death. Wanna bet that this lie was promulgated by Maoists and Co? Even to this day, most Nepalis still believe that Gyanendra is responsible for Birendra's death. I mean, since when did Birendra become a hero? Gyane was a dumbass no doubt. He had to grab power and that just added to his unpopularity. He's just stupid.

It doesn't matter what they, the Maoists, iterate or reiterate, given the history of commies all around the globe. What they advocate or preach isn't necessarily always what they actually support or want to happen. That's a pretty fine difference, my friend.

I am not gonna read about Prachanda Path[seems heavily borrowed from the Shining Path], because I am not going to fall for clever rhetoric.

And please do not use the Panche card with me, because I do not support royals. Panches have killed people, and so have Maoists. They're two sides of the same coin.

RPU, you're having "little knowledge is dangerous" syndrome. First check how your attitude towards life is. Do you value (more)money or justice?

You say you don't support prachanda or the king so what's your point? It's the head of the SPA that's saving the king. You are the type of person who 'thinks' he knows and elongates talks.

So what? It's supposed to be an ongoing debate. Revolution doesn't happen in a day. The fact is that the responsibility lies on the constituents(you and me) to push our leaders to do things they don't support. And guess what, if you don't like the leaders, boot them out when you get to vote. It's a simple concept really. What part of "democracy" don't you understand?

So what are you trying to do by picking on the same question again and again for which response have been given several times by many people?

yes that's the punchline. there is a thin line of difference between revolutionists and terrorists. that is EXACTLY the reason why people tend to mix them up. i won't say i support al-qaeda but i won't deter them blindfoldedly either. if there is a good cause, hel i will support them.

now i have never said i welcome killings of innocents from maoists. as much as i abhor NA's, i will and i do detest their wrong doings. i am not saying they are demigod either. so mistakes tend to happen. you got to perceive the crux and get the bigger picture and open your mind by sweeping the prejudices away. of course all lives are equally important.

and gyanendra did not fail only because he became unpopular. there are various factors. and i don't blame him alone. it's the 250 yrs old instituion (monarchy) that is to be blamed. they did not give a sh*t to our social problem--the crux. as i said, i don't support maoists because of their name. i support them because of the cause they are fighting for. the cause which neither monarchy nor parties bothered to care about.

LOL you are fine. i am not tagging anyone here. i used to think the way you are thinking now about 3 yrs back. i think i have grown up a bit from there ;)

LooTe

Fine then, keep supporting terrorists and living in a free country that values freedom and democracy. That's hypocrisy. You guys don't make any sense. I don't think I should be arguing with people who think killing teachers is a "minor discrepancy". Go ahead, keep spouting utter nonsense and believing you're oh-so enlightened. You're not, trust me.

The above passage was for Sajhauser, the enlightened one. Not you loote.

I still don't understand how killing innocents can be justified. I just don't understand it.

I do like to pick on people's big ego. You're free to pick on mine, i will feel bad if i have one.. :)

LOL....you are playing a cry baby game now...
i recall that famous story which is quite metaphoric to the present context.
a guy writes '6' on his palm and claims that he wrote 6. another person who is looking from the opposite end sees it '9' and claims that it is 9 that he wrote. both are right from their positions. however the truth is there can be multiple truths if looked upon from various angles. i would love to see people who see the entirety.

gotta go...

LooTe

You live in the United States of America and support a group that the US government deems to be a terrorist group. That's anti-American as far as I am concerned. Here you are ensconced in your comfortable kursi, spouting your pro-Maoist blather, all because you live in a country that respects your right to spout your viewpoints, however asinine they may be. Yet, you support communists, who are anti-democracy, IPSO facto. I mean, China calls itself a democracy, but anybody with even half a brain knows that it isn't.

I must say you're truly enlightened. You're smart. Bravo.

Loote,
dude ...stop acting like you are the person who sees entirety cause by now everyone knows you are not.. just stop pretending ..to be what you are not...please stop!!by putting stupid arguments in support of wrong process you are not sounding any brilliant..for your sake stop ..u know how big of hypocrite are you ..you are insulting yourself by furthering these discussion in sajah...

Talking what America doesn't like is not "Anti-American". And, just because you have "communist tag," you are not a communist. China is not a communist country. The name is communist. See the difference.

Praise America: yes, so many good things in America.

But America: One of the worst crime rates in the whole world in the "most democratic country.", the country that believes in freedom of speech has attempted to kill Castro three times, (just because he is a communist.)

If you want to rejoice pancha's/gyanendra's reign, then you can never have sense to see the "beauty" the Maoist revolution has brought up: the new scenario. If you are born to hate communist, you will always bark against communist. You will get many examples, many examples; but if you really prod objectively what really is in it, you may understand if you do not pretend you do not.

Look back to the history of China and their revolution of 1949 and then Nepal. What was the condition of Nepal and China then? Was it that the non-communist China already developed then. Now look that China you abhor, and look Nepal the non-communist rulers brought up. You will see the difference.

People like IMI, and Kali Kali, you all are pointless.

Just by looking at this thread, I can tell that most ofthe Maoist supporters talk differently. and with ideas, they talk because they care about the country, when i say country i don't only mean kathmandu.

Foir example let's look at maoist supporters ,and people like Imi and kali kali's example. When Imi and Kali kaili and others like them talk , they always use negative words when insulting maoists or the group of people that they don't like, but How many times have u seen majority of the maoist supporter in sajha insulting and using words like asshole, go to hell when criticisiizing others? - none.. this thread alone shows what kinda people maoist are and what kind of people some of the others are?,

by the way I am a maoist supporter, its not that I support them cuz i want to or cuz of my family, its because of my own point of view.

-cheers

ok !listen dude ..i have put my points very nicely in recent past threads against maoist movement so don't try to act smart over here ..and i am not going to discuss with you cause you claim you are maoist..no its not that i can't discuss with you ..don't challenge my wit and reasoning power..i have done a lot in past but people who have blind faith and bhakti in maoist are blind, deaf and dumb so it is pointless..

you are great ..you should feel proud your brothers are making maoist looks so good out here ..correct.????.you want to challege how many people who come to sajah are maoist supporter and how many are not.Have they able to convince people killing poor and childeren are justified..but as i said it is useless cause you guys are not ready to listen anything againt it.so why should i say anything..i know what i am doing..i do tend to put people down and i do ..i do put dumb and stupid people down and i don't care what you say.

and this is last post on maoist supporters thread ..i will let the dogs bark..barking is what maoist do best.. they have no ability to actually do anything but just to show poor people false dreams ..

I cannot see in my lifetime maoist comming to govenment fairly. I can bet my life on that.

and to loote and sajha user and maoist supporter,

Maoist said they are on truce? But they are still killing people brutally , extroting money.They are not true to their words.
SO WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE THEM AND ALLOW THEM TO COME TO GOVENMENT?

Imi buddy kani kani kana aafulai libral bhanera dhekaunu khojda raja badi bhayeko ra dhoti khuskeko thaha payenau?