I am just dissatisfied with how SPA is kissing Maoist Ass.I is not against the peace process but it should be having done without being dominated by Maoist.
1. CA is the bargain Chip:
As much as you think that Maoist are going to go back to jungle by now you should realize that moist are tired .The leaders are already hungry for power. At least I can say you that the stalemate would not end before Pachanda dies .So why the Fuc% he did all this for. So, now if they can threaten to do whatever they like we can threaten them with No CA.It is just game. As much as you think Nepalese people want CA they don’t want Maoist with guns before that.So, now that the political parties are safe and have curtailed the king’s power they should not kiss Maoists Ass.
US, India and NA is with democratic forces and king so. Maoist cannot do whatever they want at least cannot fulfill their dream.

2. What if they do go back to the jungle:
Well that good .they should go back to jungle that is where they belong. Blood will be spilled this time .I am ready to spill 10% of the blood of 14000 that is 1400 leaders of Maoists should be executed. If you think India cooperates, we need CIA intelligence. The leaders like Parchanda and baburam can be killed the tomorrow.

3. Divide and rule:
As every party there are leaders who want to go above Pachanda and baburam.Money talks in every language. Divide the army/rebels.
Now you ask me why they could not do these all these years because SPA, king always thought they can win by force. There are other ways too.

Offer money to rebels...who lay their arms or give info...force is just one of the solution but not all .The money can be amount upto lakhs...it is still cheaper than to compensating one dead police.

Offer education, food to rebels who come back to mainsteam.Show the Govt.cares in those villages. When u gets such kind of assurance from govt.the enthusiasm among the fighters fades away.

Saam , daam ,danda and Ved ... Till now it has been seen to break maoist insurgency govt using danda.the second force daam is most vital one in today’s world .you can buy anyone .

Road to peace:
This will be biggest mistake for NC and UML to shake hands with the Maoist without disarming. If they don’t want to .then they cannot participate in the Govt.Trust me it will take them a while to go back. And morally also they won’t have that much support from their own cadres.
Until and unless they disarm .they cannot / should not be govt.This is my view but we know how much smart SPA leaders are so. Those jack asses are going to be kicked in their butt. There can only one communist party survive either UML or mao...Uml has not recognized that.NC is the biggest opponent of commies.So, simple if NC do not unite with right wings and among themselves they will see their future doomed.
1. Disarm Maoist
2. Refrendum in fair election whether to keep King or not each individual can vote yes or no …no representative democracy here. Every vote counts...
3. as well as social issues – Hindu country or not should be part of ballet.
4. Role of the king would be decided by the representative elected from the CA.and just the role.
5. after CA... Draft new constitution.
6. Maoist guerillas should not be assimilated in nation army however they wish to join army they can from free competition.
7. The Maoist guerillas would be offered jobs as much possible in the industries. Not in army. NO.
8. Go for HOR election...every party can represent as before including maoist.No discrimination against maoist there.
9. Every thing should be under the new consititution.and Supreme Court should cross check the constitution.

You started this thread pointing thaha payen and other who have different view then yours and that argue went vice versa...you also belong to the same group smart like other.... the story ends like this....

dude SS74k.. some one here asked me to present my view so i gave it with my reasons and how i would do it .I have not personally claimed anyone being maoist or royalist or SPA in my views.in first post
read it!!!!!!!!!

and i know you .. dude we don't have same view and i know .we have argued about that so why would you think good about me?Anyways i don't even care!!!have good nite.

so this thread is a perfect example of how "democratic" we ourselves are.

its just a matter of seconds once you put forth your views, you will be labeled as

1) Royalist

2) SPAer

3) SPAMer

4) Maoist

then it will end up on a rather embarassing note with people bashing each other, name calling involving one's forefathers, mothers, sisters et. al.

where is the goddamn "people of nepal" ??? 24 million people, damn you!!! when will people get justice? when will they be an agenda?

i was thinking of inputting but nah i have abstained from participating in political debates in sajha and i rather stick with my conviction. the very reason for that, well i guess everyone in this forum knows by now.

now someone will pop up and label me as a "scary crow" ( anarchist?) coz i have stopped expressing.

there goes my dream of "democratic nepal with an unjust society" shattered into pieces.

but i am a dreamer and will keep dreaming on.....


Loote

Loote ,
you should by now know how i feel.I usually don't tend to label people even if they express maoist ideas unless they start this cheap thing of labelling me.When i started writing in these kind of political issues all these smart ass people labelled me royalist and what not.Some people have so much brain that they started labelling other people who differ the ideas as gay.. and crap.. remember!!now u see the other thread of name calling.And after i wrote their1st time i had already apolozied.I do have that much discency.Unlike some people who use cheap and r words..You should know by now i don't use such words only when some one provokes me even then i stick to the writer .I do not go mother and daughters..

Have you noticed one thing?

people who are hardcore supporter of SPA and Maoist has used such cheap words for people who against people who are royalist.I am not being biased just read all the political threads.. well just because i want king,spa and maoist(democratic ,withoutarms) to get along if someone thinks i am royalist then i do not care ..

ImI, is smoking from his ears....when I started posting my views on sajha, I thought ImI, memyselfandnepal and Maddogg were one person under different ids. Because they had the same tone...all of them sounded to be against the current process...Later, I started seeing the difference. ImI does have some brains(but I still don't understand WHY he wants the king), MMN doesn't have any, and maddogg is a gone case.

hahahahah..
my Sajahuser...biyatch..
Smoking from ears re??lol.. so i was waiting for u ..
there is smart ass guy who provoked me to write this and later started calling me names etc. so i had to reply in same catergory right?:)

Besides..i do not have multiple ids..i don't think i require one.I do not believe in cheating.i play by the rule.If sajha says 1 id per person that means one id per person.I do get stuck some time i cannot post more than 20 messages.Sucks!!!hahahha

well,i have already said why we need king.In the other threads .I gave reasons too and nobody challenged that.what can i say now.
ok biyatch ..hisss hiss..not spit spit okiee..:)

Gyane listened to Chulashi giri who did not even know how Nepali soil smells like for about 18-20 years, so I am lebeling Gyane an airhead, here. any problem?????? Now, I am giving you my explanation:

what's wrong with some the most cunning royalist who smartly reject him to be called by royalist? why hesitation if he really wants a$$hole airhead Gyane. Even Krishna Prasad Bhattarai, just before entering the palace for an audience from the King (actually airhead Gyane) when the Janaandolan II was at its climex, claimed himself to be "royalist" publicly.

Categoration is rather simple: who supports the continuation of the current state's feudal structure and its head (airhead) Gyane is royalist, who supports Maoists activies is maoists, who supports Girija's and NC's stance towards solving the crisis is Kangressi, and who supports ongoing peace process (which is the compromise between NC, UML, ..., Sadbhabana, Maoists, people) is SPAMmer. Some fall in one or more categories. I fall only in the last category, and I accept if anybody labels me as SPAMmer. some royalist do not simply understand that we share the feeling that we should try our best so that maoists will not go back to jungle again. If I sound like a maoist, no problem. I know where I am.

My only disagreement with IMI is just in one point:
He sees moaists as the threat to democracy (if he really believes in), which I don't think is possible in Nepal; I see the opposite, that is, the monarchy is the threat because of its past, its intention/nature and army/police structures.

Jai Nepal

Imi i don't see any rason to hate you...everytime you say you are not biased and you think rationally,, common readers are to judge you ...not you....so i would like you to say keep on writing but don't claim yourself the above things ... .....

The terrorist thapa thinks that the very insitution is the threat to the country to whom this country belongs...haha...SPAMmer terrorists.

This country belongs to Nepalese and Monarch...Not to SPAMmers...Got it? Get it!

ha ha... I can only laugh at you Mr Joker, because Joker's job is to make other laugh!!

UMMMMM.....okay? lol. SPAMmers end where logic begins.

eww uncool people, all into politics! i bet you guys are the chamcha chamchis of girija and gyane!

I'd say people who are against the current movement are supporting the crown, because they are supporting the royals in one way or another by discriminating the real democracy that's undergoing rt now in nepal...the transparent one....even ministers are getting scrutinized...don't you seee?? this is real democracy!!!
http://www.thehimalayantimes.com/fullstory.asp?filename=aFanata0sgqzpga7Wa8a8a.axamal&folder=aHaoamW&Name=Home&dtSiteDate=20060708

People in nepal are not as dumb as some of you may think. So now, I'd say no matter who is in power, they will have to bow to popular demand. THE POLITICAL POWER IN NEPAL HAS ALREADY BEEN DECENTRALIZED....as one journalist said, "an irreversible process has already started".

I wouldn't have been so much against ceremonial monarch if birendra was still on the throne. I think it's morally wrong for us, nepalis to accept gyane as a king. But this symbol might be necessary until the political situation in nepal is fully stabilized. After that, kick the crown out!...no wait...sell it and use it for develpment process...

Azsweety.. ma ta timro matra kata ..chamca haina ni sweety ke bhaneko testo..
sweet sweet kura garna na:)
thanks sweety.:)

ImI!!!!! kina jhagada garira tyaso bhaye?.. jhagada nagara la aau baru, aile bahira volley ball khelna jane!!!

hey sweety,. how do u know that i was going to play volleyball today.hahahaha..
I don't fight sweety ..i just love all even maoist supportes they are like innocent kids who have been blinded ..by some daku..lol
It just amazes me people who i think have some standardss comes out to be crooks and cheap... not going to fight again la to cheap a$$ people!!!:)
ok i will be there ..to play volleyball with you..:)

i know its volleyball season re kya! i mean m a volleyball fan myself, so u sure ur gonna come play with me? but i will be goin to see dead mans chest on 7 today, so around 5 would be good to play volleyball ;);)

I know some people still expecting some rewards by licking Gyane a$$hole. cheaper????? ha haaaaaaaa

hahahahha. Imi darling,

that last post of mine was a generic one. i did not mean to point it to any specific person per se. it was just my observation of teh political threads here in sajha. i have seen the repurcussions of expressing one's idea and views here, you have experienced it too. i am NOT pointing towards any particular persona here. moreover you happen to be my darling :P. how can i point you alone out? :D.

thaha panyen dude,
i dream of democratic nepal, and i tend to welcome views from literally everywhere and everybody. i personally dont label a person be it logically biased to a side or not. your logic of labelling and putting aside a person's view to a side does make sense but i happen to be more lenient when it comes to labelling. i dont even explicitly label memyselfandnepal as a royalist, although i know what he is made up of and where his views are coming from. all are his own views and he is entitled to it. i rather believe in democratic practice and i think one should listen to others in a just basis to be able to decipher things and see them in their entirety.

i am an opinionated person myself, and i feel many of us are when it comes to things pertaining to "our nepal". no body wants to hurt their own country as long as they love her. its just the way of seeing things. i don't believe i should go on and on and on to convince others on my perspectives. i try my best, but when i don't see it happening, i rather write a story and polish my hobby instead of crying and cursing. :)

Loote

Some people just love to lick Parchanda's and baburam's ball .hahahahaha